Posts by Had Enough

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I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!

by DazedAndConfused in

while i was sexually abused as a child, 4 years old,...all of this has almost driven me over the top!.

no...it has driven me over the top!!!.

please, please, stop this insanity...

((((Dazed))))
I'm so glad you posted your distress and anxiety here. This place has many here that have gone through and know exactly how you feel. Here you can find empathy, understanding, love and good advice on how to deal with your memories and the feelings that result.

I agree with Dana's encouragement also to talk to a professional about your feelings of desperation right now though to help you work through this.

I hope that seeing more and more victims finally speaking out from their enforced silence, will actually help you and other victims to end the frustration of not getting any justice from the WTS.

Dazed....please know that you and all the victims that have broken their silence here have all helped me (and many more too I'm sure) so much to see so much more clearly just how shallow the WTS has been, and still is, in its promoting the "good name of the Society" rather than the physical and emotional well being of those in its care.

Please hang in there!!!

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

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WTS Says We Didn't Know 20 Years Ago, Not!

by blondie in

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quote] progressive understanding.

"people didn't have the body of knowledge 18 or 20 years ago to say that this is something that will harm your child emotionally, if you don't address it.

parents didn't know the seriousness ... and the long-term effects.

Had Enough

Thanks for finding and displaying these articles blondie.

I asked someone what he thought of that statement about what people knew 20 years ago about the affects of abuse. He said its true that we're learning more everyday about these things but to say that they didn't know 20 years ago how abuse would harm your child emotionally is an embarrasingly stupid remark.

I'm continually amazed at the depths the WTS will sink to try to justify themselves rather than just simply saying "we made mistakes and would now like to make up for them".

How much more healing would they generate with showing true humilty and compassion.

But no...they continue to find more excuses to cover over their methods of handling, or mishandling actually, this crime against innocent children.

Thanks for digging these up for us. Your are so right...this is proof positive they knew. Once again they are just trying to protecting their a$$es...or is it their assets????

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

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Spanking WT in Benton KY

by silentlambs in

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well we did it, 45 people were present for the first candle light vigil for silentlambs around the world.

holly and heather berry were there along with many other victims who told stories, sung songs, and recited poems that were self composed to help them deal with abuse issues.

there were many touching moments where you could feel the heartbreak and pain suffered by the expressions made.

Had Enough

This really looks good on the WTS!!!! How warm and wonderful all you silentlambs must feel to finally see the WTS and elders squirming.

It is one thing for the WTS and staunch JWs to be smug and self-satisfied when the newspapers reports experiences of the JWs who were persecuted for "doing the lord's work", "preaching the good news", "displaying loyalty to God" etc. etc. and blah, blah.

But instead of "standing firm in the face of adversity" these elders simply showed blatant cowardice, and were totally rude to not even show up and try to explain why they didn't want to hold the meeting.

You loyal JWs take note ....WTS cannot cry "persecution for righteousness sake". This is simply getting your just rewards, WTS and you elders of Bill's congregation. Its the old "what goes around, comes around" thing.

Open your eyes all the rest of you 'dear' elders who follow every syllable coming from the mouths of the GB.....you are merely the lowly peasants doing the dirty laundry of the fat, rich lords of the manor.

I hope you soon open your eyes and see how you are just the pawns in the big chess game the WTS is playing.

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DATELINE May Be Pre-Empted or Rescheduled!

by Mister Biggs in

there will be an nba playoff game on nbc at 9:00 pm est.. this means that dateline will either be pre-empted or shown at 8:00 pm est.. according to my tv guide that i received in the mail yesterday, it is scheduled to come on at 10:00 pm est.. that would mean that it will be pre-empted.. however, tvguide.com shows dateline being scheduled to air at 8:00 pm est.. that would mean that it would air as scheduled.. so, since friday's (may 24) dateline will be the last show until tuesday (sunday's is pre-empted) they should announce at the end of the show what will be coming up for tuesday the 28th.. let's keep an eye on this.. the only thing definite is that it will not air at 10:00 pm est (for all you vcr-heads) on may 28.. my apologies, of course, if someone has already addressed this.

:o)

Had Enough

Whew...thanks!!!!!.....I just checked my TV Guide book because of this thread.

For Southern Ontario...Dateline will be shown at 8pm EST before the game

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

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Mom and silentlambs issue

by Mulan in

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at dinner last night, i began telling my mother more about the silentlambs issue.

i told her all about bill bowen and barbara anderson and the pandelos and the 'witch hunt' to get them disfellowshipped.

at first she was defensive of the policy, until i told her they live in 3 different states.

Had Enough

Mulan:

I have been following your posts about your mom with great empathy.

I am so happy for you that you have her with you in your home and you can reason with her. I agree that even if she does finally see the full hypocrisy of the WTS, she will still have her love for God and the Bible to sustain her faith so that she won't be devastated in finding out the true colours of the borg.

My mom was about the same age as your mom is now. My greatest wish before she died a few months ago, was that she would have had her sight and hearing these last couple of years. It was so difficult to have try to have a conversation with her as her hearing was such a detriment to having a reasonable conversation with her and her reasoning ability had greatly diminished.

I remember trying to explain the "new light" on the generation belief. She just could not fathom any change on it and just kept repeating that the end was any day now. She had actually believed that for 50 years or more. It breaks my heart that I couldn't reach her and ease her mind that I'm not doomed because I'm not going to the meetings.

It really warms my heart that your mom still is able to reason things out and has you to be a comfort to her and love her.

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

61

Does Anything Go In Apostate Warfare

by HildaBingen in

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ex-jw also complain about theocratic warfare.

they say jw lie to carry out war against satan and his system.

jw never lie.

Had Enough

What's with the "accent" she's typing with now?

Five days ago she was typing English just fine....now Hilda speak with accent....what means this? huh?

She kinda sounds like Natashia and Boris in Rocky and Bullwinkle.

Somebody being fake yes?....like WT maybe..yes?

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

11

I cried (Posted first by SilentLambs)

by WildHorses in

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i cried .

i cried for my sister ... raped by a temporary (auxillary) pioneeer, who was a close friend of my brother (now a bethel elder) .... she was only trying to come into the truth like her big brothers ... trying to attend meetings ... go in the field ... to study ... trying to only associate with jehovah s people , instead of those "evil worldly people....bad associations" .

i cried for my sister again .... along with my littlest brother ... because when the two of them stopped studying and coming to meetings ...and my brother and i .....we were too busy with our new "family" spending all our spare time going to meetings... studies... door to door ... assemblies ... and conventions...we were too busy doing god s work to notice or worry that our step father used the older siblings being away to take advantage of those two children .

Had Enough

I was so moved by this victim's letter to silentlambs, that I sent it out to others.

First however I made a list at the bottom of the letter explaining some of the JW terminology that non-JWs might not understand...like "pioneer, disfellowshipping, shunning, worldly people and why they are considered 'evil', in the truth, and wait on Jehovah".

Then I started to explain the JW policy on handling abuse accusations, ie: the 2 witness requirement, reporting only in States requiring it, handling it internally without reporting it. I also explained that when the abuser denies it, the victims are kept quiet, by not being allowed to speak to anyone about it on threat of being df'd themselves.

I then added silentlambs website inviting them to view the many victims' accounts showing that the JW claims of protecting the children and not the abuser, are false, and to also view many slurs and condemnations by typical JWs who refuse to believe their religion is wrong.

Then.....I added the information about Dateline's coverage, air date and the judicial manhandling of the supporters like Bill, Barbara and the Pandelo's.

I have already received an answer back stating how TERRIBLE this news is and "I just can't imagine what it could be like to belong to an organisation that actually TAKES OVER your day to day thinking!"

She then assured me she will watch Dateline and inform others about it too.

And so on....and so on.... The news is out there folks!!!!

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

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A big THANK YOU to DATELINE

by WildHorses in

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just in case you do read the post here.

i want to thank you for giving the silent lambs a voice.. i doubt this will bring the wt to it's knees, but it will make the public aware of the wt policy on molestation, and maybe, just maybe, it will make them change that policy, and in doing so, will protect many other children from having to live through what so many others have in the past.. from the bottom of my heart........thank you.

lilacs.

Had Enough

I add my thanks to DATELINE too.

I had said in my email to them, that once we know the air date, many of us will be emailing that info out to friends and posting it on other internet discussion boards.

And it looks like the "spreading of the good news" has started.

I emailed some friends this morning with the date and an explanation, who now are forwarding it to their friends...and so on..and so on...

(hope the banner thing shows up)

Can somebody tell me if it shows up or do only I see in on my computer????

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

55

Strut your stuff...show support for dateline

by dungbeetle in

some of us are showing support for dateline by changing our profile pics..... come join us!!!!.

here is one:.

before you try and remove the stick from my arse, remove the telephone pole from your own arse..

Had Enough

Hope this shows my support too!!

And I like Lilacs thought of using a lamb for silentlambs too!!

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead

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Dateline - reactions the morning after.

by dmouse in

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what happens the morning after dateline?

how will most jws react?

these are my thoughts on the matter, which, of course, are open to debate:.

Had Enough

MikeMusto:

Ahhhh...spoken like a true mindless, heartless robot. I truly feel sorry you will only be feeling the "pain in your butt" in the moring after. It should be in your heart, but you have lost touch with reality...and for that I feel sorry for you.... but not much...'cuz you've been here long enough to open your eyes and your heart and yet you refuse.

What a sad excuse for a human being you are!!!

Had Enough

"Never doubt that a small group of citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."...Margaret Mead